Yin and Yang
You can not remove things from the universe. Any one thing necessitates the existence of everything else. I look at the black bored. If it wasn't there all the information about it would still exist in the universe. If it was removed, its reflection would still exist on my eyes. Conversely, if everything in the universe was removed except the black board, the changing state of it would give all of the information about the rest of the universe. They imply each other. This is true of anything in the universe. If one little thing was removed, the universe as we know it could not exist.
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In other words we are in a closed system where we are part of the it. Therefore everything we do or don't do is still within it and applies it rules. Since we are built upon and based on the rules of this system for us that it is all there is and will be. From within one cannot define and conclude anything else.
A poor metaphor is a computer game where the character is able to 'live', manoeuver and experience and explore within the capabilities, characteristics and underlying rules of the programmed environment. The character cannot jump out of the programme and exist independent of its creator and maintainer (i.e. the programmed code running). Still this does not contradict that there is a programmer who has created the very closed environment. It's existence is different and independent of the game environment. The reference frame is just different.
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The difference that the universe has no creator indipendent from itself.
I am to stupid to understand the deep meaning of these phrases.
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